Dream vs. TommyInnit: Full timeline explained

A Dream SMP reunion of sorts has brought many creators from the server together once again, but this time, it’s because of a controversial situation between Dream and TommyInnit. This situation has very quickly become quite complex, so you might be confused about its details.

If you’re behind or struggling to follow everything that’s been said, here’s a complete breakdown of the full timeline of the recent encounters between Dream and TommyInnit.

What started the feud between Dream and TommyInnit?

The inciting event for the feud between the two Minecraft creators is TommyInnit calling xQc cringe, xQc responding and mentioning Dream, and Dream coming to xQc’s defense with a now-deleted meme that included the “R” slur. The lead-up to this event spans back a bit though, so here are all of the events that led up to it.

• On Dec. 29, 2024, TommyInnit called Mizkif “the worst person he’s ever met” during an episode of his podcast with Jack Manifold called “Shut Up I’m Talking.”
• While live on Jan. 7, xQc reacts to a clip of TommyInnit stating this by saying “these guys are all cringe.”
• On Jan. 10, TommyInnit says “to be more cringe than TommyInnit is pretty fucking hard but you pulled it off pal” and posts a picture of xQc wearing a Donald Trump shirt while meeting him.
• XQc responds on Jan. 10 to TommyInnit with a post on X (formerly Twitter) and brings up Dream.

• Dream entered the conversation on Jan. 10 after being mentioned by xQc and posted a now-deleted image that included the “R” slur. This image features a person standing at a crossroads with the label “Dream SMP stans” choosing between heading down a path that leads to a castle with a sun behind it that has the label “growing up” or a path that leads into a dark forest with the label “becoming a [R slur] TommyInnit fan.”

What happened between Dream and TommyInnit?

After all of the inciting events, the drama between Dream and TommyInnit officially began with both creators directly calling out the other for various wrongdoings.

Dream primarily alleged that TommyInnit was always a terrible friend to him when they were on good terms, has continuously spread lies about him since, and acts differently towards him and other creators in public versus private situations. TommyInnit mostly alleged that Dream has treated him badly, is not a good person, and has held his success over his head.

Dream posts on Reddit in response

Following backlash surrounding the meme he posted, Dream shared and deleted a response on Reddit on Jan. 11. He’s mentioned being neurodivergent before, but in this post, he clarified how he is autistic and confused about the “double standards” and “rules” related to reclaiming a slur.

He also said TommyInnit “lies about [him] constantly” and called his fans the “worst of the ex-Dream SMP stans.”

TommyInnit responds to Dream’s post

Following Dream’s Reddit post, TommyInnit said, “You can call me anything but do NOT call me poor” on Jan. 11. He also posted again on X (formerly Twitter) saying “all [he] had to do was get Trump involved” to finally get Dream to crack.

Tubbo streams on Twitch and talks about Dream

Another creator from the Dream SMP named Tubbo, who is also a close friend of TommyInnit, went live on Jan. 11 to discuss the situation. He gave his own timeline of the entire situation and outlined some key points that Dream himself later responded to.

• Tubbo said he wants to give an “unbiased perspective” on the situation but that he’s also “incredibly biased” because it involves his closest friends.
• He mentioned grooming allegations that came out about Dream right around the time the Dream SMP server ended, and that he “believes” Dream released a video “disproving everything” he was accused of, but he also thinks “enough money can make anything disappear.”
• Tubbo said he “understands that Dream has an autism diagnosis” so there can be “an element of reclaiming” with the slur he used, but that there’s a “difference between reclaiming a slur and then calling 15 million people the R slur.”
• He claimed Dream uses the help he gave TommyInnit during “the worst of the doxxing and the swatting” in 2021 as a “gotcha.”
• Tubbo said he “gets why” Dream “might be mad about the lies” that are being spread about him and that he “doesn’t like” that his friend group jokes about the allegations.

Jack Manifold streams and talks about Dream

On Jan. 11, Jack Mainfold, the co-host of TommyInnit’s “Shut Up I’m Talking” podcast and another ex-Dream SMP member, chimed in with his own stream surrounding the drama. Nothing in this stream has been brought up in the drama yet, but it could become important as it continues to unfold.

Dream streams on Twitch and talks about the drama

On Jan. 11, Dream went live on Twitch with the title “Let’s talk TommyInnit and Dream SMP Drama (Detective Dream).” His stream ran for just over three hours and he covered lots of different topics and points. Here are the key details discussed during this stream.

• In response to Tubbo, Dream said he released a video fully disproving the grooming allegations and that it “feels disingenuous” for Tubbo to claim otherwise. The video Dream previously released on this topic is called “The Truth” and the individuals who accused him admitted to lying, as he provided evidence in this video.
• Addressing TommyInnit’s post on X (formerly Twitter), in which he mentioned Trump finally causing Dream to crack, Dream asked how he could post that about “someone you even at one point ever looked at as a friend.”
• Dream said TommyInnit and his friends were “celebrating” and “supporting” Nicolas Cantu calling him slurs around a year ago.
• In response to claims from Tubbo and others that Dream overstepped a boundary by reaching out to TommyInnit’s mom, Dream shared what he claimed to be the singular DM he sent her and the situation surrounding it. TommyInnit’s mom was replying to Dream fans on Twitter who were upset at TommyInnit’s portrayal of Dream in the “If YouTubers Were Honest…” video and Dream reached out to her to share why he and his fans were frustrated by it.
• Dream said he does “not take credit for anybody’s success on the Dream SMP or anyone [he] did content with.”
• Dream mentioned chats he’s had with several creators—including Tubbo, Jack Manifold, Ludwig, and others—in which he corrected several rumors and lies surrounding him.

TommyInnit posts a YouTube video about Dream

On Jan. 12, TommyInnit posted a YouTube video that’s nearly six minutes long titled “Dream.” He addresses several situations and points in the video, but all of the main takeaways are as follows.

• He said “you can’t throw around the R slur” in response to the meme Dream posted and criticized him for doing so.
• TommyInnit called Dream and his friends (GeorgeNotFound and Sapnap) “sexist” and claimed the way they “talk about women behind the scenes is so sexist.”
• He said Dream was “awful” to him four years ago and that he gave him YouTube advice when he was 16 that he then “held over [his] head for years.”
• TommyInnit said “the Dream SMP, [Dream’s] success, just wouldn’t have happened without [him].”
• He claimed Dream “harassed” his mother and that he tried to “harm” the relationship between them.

Tubbo streams again

Tubbo went live on Twitch again on Jan. 12 and spent nearly six hours reacting and responding to Dream’s Twitch stream. He didn’t really share anything new during this stream, but as the situation continues, it might be an important event to remember.

Dream says he’s making a video to respond

On TommyInnit’s YouTube video about him, Dream posted and deleted a reply. In this response, he said TommyInnit had “[attacked] and [lied] about [him] in front of his entire audience” and that he’s making a video to respond to it.

Dream posts a video about Tommyinnit

On Jan. 13, Dream posted his response video titled “I’m Sorry (but not to TommyInnit)” in direct response to Tommyinnit’s “Dream” video.

• He said Tommyinnit “correctly” criticized him for the meme he posted and that he’s “genuinely” sorry that he shared it and that he “shouldn’t have done it.”
• Dream said “[Tommyinnit] and [his] friends have been spreading lies about [him] for over a year and a half” in regards to the “false allegations” he disproved in his “The Truth” video.
• He reminded the audience that he made a video fully “debunking the allegations” against him and showed the post that followed afterward where his accuser admitted the allegations were false.
• Dream said Tommyinnit doesn’t “provide any evidence or context” alongside his claims.
• He showed clips highlighting that Tommyinnit “didn’t have a problem” trying to interview his friends Sapnap and GeorgeNotFound and states this contradicts him saying he believes they’re “bad people.”
• He said he gave Tommyinnit YouTube advice because he thought he was “extremely talented” and “hardworking” which is also why Dream would call with him for “hours a day.”
• Dream called Tommyinnit’s claims that Dream and the Dream SMP’s success wouldn’t have happened without him “egotistical” and says it’s “exactly” what Tommyinnit is accusing him of.
• He said “the Dream SMP would not have been what it was without any of the creators that were on it.”
• In response to Tommyinnit calling his merchandise “lazily designed,” Dream defended his company as a “family business” and claims that the merch company Tommyinnit sold his merch through used “child labor” and “scammed” both creators and viewers. He mentioned this Coffeezilla video for more context on the situation he’s referencing.
• Dream said “because [Tommyinnit] feels strongly enough to make an entire video hating on [him],” he wants Tommyinnit to “take down every video” that he’s in and said he’ll do the same.

Another Tubbo stream

On Jan. 14, Tubbo streamed again reacting to Dream’s video. He disagrees with a lot of Dream’s claims, and all of the points he makes here he later brings up again when directly talking with Dream.

Tubbo and Dream stream together

Dream and Tubbo both went live on Twitch to stream their conversation about the situation on Jan. 15. The conversation lasted around three and a half hours.

• Dream said he “is so sorry to anyone that [he] has ever offended with any word that [he] has ever used” and asks anyone he has hurt to reach out to him.
• When discussing the merch company Tommyinnit and Tubbo worked with, Dream asked if the company “used child labor” to which Tubbo responded, “yes, but you need proof for that.”
• Tubbo, Tommyinnit, and all other creators involved with the company cannot comment on it because they’re “tied up” in a legal situation with it.
• Dream and Tubbo came to the conclusion they just won’t agree on everything “because [they] are different” and can’t “reach a middle ground” because of it, but still want to “incentivize [their] communities to stop attacking each other.”
• Dream said he hopes their discussion will “[set] an example for, hopefully, future communication between creators.”
• Dream said he has “a lot of respect” for Tubbo and that both Tommyinnit and Tubbo “didn’t need [him] in any way” for their careers.

Tommyinnit talks about the situation on his podcast

On Jan. 19, Tommyinnit posted a podcast episode with Jack Manifold titled “AN EVENTFUL WEEK.” In this episode, they mention that the Patreon continuation of their conversation is where they’ve addressed the situation. Nothing major or new really came from this talk, but some of the key points in it are as follows.

• Tommyinnit said he is “not proud” of Dream and doesn’t “respect” him.
• He said his video “concisely covers” everything he has to say about the situation.
• Tommyinnit said he doesn’t think Dream “feels very much empathy for the pain he’s caused” and doesn’t “know where his guilt is.”
• He said Dream is “one of the most exhausting, self-indulgent people [he’s] met in [his] entire life.”
• Tommyinnit said he has “nothing more to say” and likely won’t comment on the more after this, but if he does, he said it’ll be on Patreon.

This seems to be where the timeline of events ends as both Dream and Tommyinnit have said they’re done discussing the situation for now and want to move forward.